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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 19, 2010 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

as a few of you might be aware, a few years ago i made the decision to start biking again, this now being my third season since that decision; i didn't decide to start riding again for any huge reason, i just figured something to do, a way to get some exercise since i live in a world and am of an age where exercise does not come as easily nor do i have the mental stamina to commit, if that makes any sense to you

anyway, the previous 2 seasons, i pretty much just rode on weekends or days off, going various distances each time, sometimes riding for just enjoyment or taking in the scene and other times riding because i needed to get somewhere or get something, etc.

this year i have been slightly anxious about a bit of soreness in my knees; nothing that i was alarmed by, since i knew i didn't have any injuries and that overall i was in pretty good shape physically, but, the thought was still there in the back of my head, hey, what's going on and what should i do

even though i work for a large medical group, i loathe going to the doctor and prefer the more traditional method of just gutting it out; but i did speak quietly to a therapist i she stated that unless i have an injury to the knee, biking should not cause any damage to my knees; which is good because i wasn't planning on taking her advice no matter what she told me; there's a certain thrill i get in doing exactly the opposite to what i am advised

and so, this season i decided to ramp up my biking and a couple of months ago i began taking my bike on the bus to work and riding it home; according to the google genii, my work is 4.2 miles (that's 6.7 kilometers for you Euro freaks) from my home, a decent enough distance

oddly enough, about the time that i decided to ratchet up my biking, i also began fixating on the 2/28/69 GD performance, and apart from a few scattered listens of other shows, it is the only GD performance that i have listened to over the past few months; in fact, i listen to the Dark Star about 3-4 times every day; i think can actually dream it now in color, that's how many times i've listened to this possibly the greatest of all Dark Stars; i can't even begin to describe to you how listening to the 2/28/69 makes me feel; i just lose myself in this incredible journey that Jerry and the others take me on; if you follow this Dark Star from beginning to end, you can actually envision just about everything positive; i feel great when i'm listening to it; i've been in stores just staring at the shelves while Dark Star courses through my brain; no additional physical stimuli needed or required; and so, during my rides home from work, but also on days off when i'm riding around, i listen to 2/28/69, and i mostly just start right in with Dark Star; it's joyous and i don't mean that in any sort of quirky cute way; it's joyous because that's what Jerry's music often stood for; i'm always amazed or baffled when people try to assess Jerry as a guitar player or where he possibly fits in on some 'best of' list; who the fuck cares? i don't care whether he could play every scale in the book, i don't care if he missed a note or was sloppy, that's not what Jerry was about; listen to the 2/28/69 Dark Star, let it grow in you, feel it, and then my friends, you will understand why Jerry is the greatest at what he did, his guitar work, his vocals, the way he combined that and the mystery that is Jerry Garcia on stage and how that translated into the person in the audience or listening to his beautiful music

anyway, i rambled there for a minute; what i'm trying to say, and what my subject heading refers to, is that every day as i started my bike ride home from work, i would begin playing Dark Star and every day i would try to make it to the front steps of the building where i live before the first notes of St. Stephen started; i've come close, but never could quite make it, usually i am 45 seconds to a minute into St. Stephen by the time i make it home; today however, i just knew i was going to make it; i took some risks at intersections, got a couple of fingers whipping across streets, pushed myself till my legs were screaming in pain, seemingly breathing my last breath, but i prevailed and hit the front steps at 19'25 of Dark Star!

am i feelin' pretty good? damn yes

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Poster: ganges Date: Oct 20, 2010 12:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Hi Arb, thanks for the great story so well written. I'm glad you are doing so well on the bike! As you know I ride a lot and love it - and I think I have my best musical moments on the bike these days. I ride in the mountains and the woods though.

I got a ticket for red light crossing once in the city - and I thought 65 Euros which is less than 100$ was a lot!

And thanks for pointing be back to this DS! Did you ever get to Rory Gallagher?

Take care, G.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 20, 2010 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

"Did you ever get to Rory Gallagher?"

not yet G., but i'm working on it! hey, sorry to hear about the 65 euros, ugh

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Poster: high flow Date: Oct 22, 2010 11:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Much respect Mr. Arbuthnot. Yes, strengthening the quad muscles does wonders for sore knees.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 22, 2010 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

love the pic!!! looks just like Arb!


classic :)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 19, 2010 3:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

" I took some risks at intersections, got a couple of fingers whipping across streets, pushed myself till my legs were screaming in pain, seemingly breathing my last breath, but I prevailed ..."

Sounds like going to a show in the '80's .
Congrats Arb . Man , that's a whole lotta 2- 28 - 69 D/S . Dreaming music in color . That's cool .

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Poster: wineland Date: Oct 20, 2010 7:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

That was great storytelling. Involved all the finer points in life: Garcia, endorphines and winning the challenge. "there's a certain thrill i get in doing exactly the opposite to what i am advised" I've learned to curb my inner-enthusiasm for giving the middle-finger to the powers that be, but it still rears its ugly head every now and again. Thanks for the motivational story of the day. I'm taking 2.28.69 to the gym today. Ride safe and swift my friend.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Oct 19, 2010 3:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Great job Thomas! 6.7 kilometers in 20 minutes!


Next up 2/15/73 (19:28)

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Poster: IT Expert Date: Oct 20, 2010 8:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

that's huge man

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 19, 2010 3:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

I had to give up commuting by bike because I couldn't handle the LA traffic anymore; also stopped "taking risks" at intersections after getting a $300 ticket for running a light. Yes, they consider you a full-on vehicle! Great story, though, glad to hear it.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 19, 2010 6:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

"$300 ticket for running a light"

way too steep a fine! i imagine LA must be a tough patch of ground to bike on

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 19, 2010 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

LA has gotten exponentially worse in the last 10 years; there are waaaayy too many cars on the road and everybody is pissed off all the time. Pissed off AND entitled, which is an awful combination, and I just had one too many days of arriving at the office having nearly been killed a couple of times. That's just not a good way to start the day.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 20, 2010 4:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Wait, that sounds like where I live.

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Oct 19, 2010 5:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Just be careful, too. Lots of crazies and zombies behind those steering wheels.

I go through 90 intersections every day commuting by bike (counted 'em once) and if there's a 1/10,000 chance of getting hit, it'll happen before I get too old to ride. I just hope I've internalized the 2/28/69 Dark Star as thoroughly as you have so I can call upon it under those circumstances.

And I agree with all you say about Jerry...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 19, 2010 5:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

wow, 90 intersections! obviously an urban setting; i hit i think 15, altho some of those i just skirt, not necessarily plow through; but for sure, being careful is part of the game plan, i've been fortunate so far, had one close call last summer...

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Poster: Cranky1 Date: Oct 19, 2010 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Gets them endorphins goin', don't it!!! You know how I feel about Dark Star....that if you listen enough you get to live forever.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Oct 19, 2010 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

I have thought for a while that 2/28 is the best Star of the fillmore west run. The definitive moment in it for me is around the six minute mark, post-first verse, when the music builds to a crescendo... in live/dead they CRASH and jerry has this transcendent, LOUD solo, but here, instead of exploding into a cosmic display of brilliance, the music folds in itself, and jerry lobs out tears of music, backed by bob... this moment feels to me like expression of all that is sad and beautiful in the world.

A little romantic, but it's how I've always felt, and that moment frequently brings me to tears.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 19, 2010 6:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

"The definitive moment in it for me is around the six minute mark"

i as well (6'30 to be precise), and your emotive interpretation of the passage that follows is spot on!

This post was modified by Arbuthnot on 2010-10-20 01:37:04

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 19, 2010 6:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

That's great Arb! Before I had to give it up (for the reasons you've heard me moan about before), I was a HUGE bike rider (well, literally and figuratively I suppose). Used to do 50 mi per morning in HS/College, etc., etc. Also loved working on my bikes--hrs tinkering, adjusting; therapy!

All that is to say, I love hearing about such stories--it reminds me of how much I loved doing exactly that sort of thing. More recently, I used to do it while repeat climbing various peaks in AZ (uh...had to stop that too), using the CD player (preipod days), seeing if I could get to various pts faster each time (ie, before "this" song or "that" song started, etc).

It's so much better doing it to a timed song than the stop watch, ain't it!??

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 19, 2010 9:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

So, I've never heard of this moaning. What caused you to stop? 50 miles in the morning is quite huge; I wouldn't give that up without a big struggle. Don't you ride at all anymore? I can't imagine stopping even though everybody and their grandma passes me now.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 20, 2010 4:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

That's how I am jogging. People pass me *walking*. I had to decide I didn't care. Sometimes I get a little bummed when someone is obviously older than me and faster, but since the number of people older than me is shrinking steadily, I figure this won't be a problem much longer.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2010 5:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Deg disk disease/knee is shot (I get a new one in a yr).

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 20, 2010 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Spinal Stenosis. Surgery two years ago. Scammed my way into 24 PT sessions with a woman who was also a Pilates instructor. Best deal ever - changed my life.

Hey, do a lot a research when going for artificial parts. I've been reading bad things lately about recalls and stuff.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 20, 2010 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Oh great...

Yup, I have been thru everyone PT you can think of, legal, not so legal, covered by insurance, not covered, and then some...

Not to gloat (funny, eh?), but I'd take yours in a heartbeat (depending on locations of projections). Sounds like you had a good outcome though, which is nice--I've learned not to hold it against others that have recovered long after I was placed by multiple docs in "failed back syndrome"...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 21, 2010 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Oh it's a crapshoot. I just read that a large percentage of back surgeries don't help and some hinder. Mine got me to mediocre, which means I'm willing to put up with shit just to do stuff. I still can't stand for more than 15 minutes before my feet fall asleep. A worthwhile trade though. Me and ibuprophen are just tight as can be. And don't forget Mr. Icebag. Wish you better times ahead.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Oct 19, 2010 9:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

>It's so much better doing it to a timed song than the stop watch, ain't it!??

LOL, I did that back in the States. Not biking, but treadmill -- aiming for, say, a first set. Far more entertaining.

Now I just time distances. Gorkha to Pokhara is approximately a 9/20/70. Downtown Kathmandu to my house by public transport is a TOO plus a He's Gone. Makes for interesting "Soundtrack Moments," too. Like the time at night when another vehicle kept swerving and almost hitting my mini-bus in time with Phil's bass notes in TOO.

(Traffic is actually slow in the city -- bicycles and rickshaws are intermixed with everything else -- so while it's crazier than what LA sounds like, what with every driver here seeming like a reincarnation of Neal Cassidy, it's not really as high-speed dangerous IMO. Unless you hit a cow. Then you go to jail.)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Oct 19, 2010 6:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

That is very very very cool, thanks for a neat post.

From a fellow knee-pain sufferer ... I don't ride, I jog - well, I do a sort of old-lady shuffle/jog, but anyway somehow I go around the track 12 times every morning. I coax and coddle and plead with my old knees and most of the time they cooperate.
Please don't take too many risks at intersections, though ...

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 20, 2010 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

building up the strength in my legs by biking has done wonders for my knees, i barely even notice any soreness!

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Poster: Jim F Date: Oct 20, 2010 12:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

Oh man, you sound just like me. I don't ride much anymore, but I used to ride like 4 or 5 days a week.

I would make up this little list in a notebook of shows that were coming up for TDIH, and absolutely loved riding to GD music. Especially at night. most of my rides began after midnight. I liked to ride out on the more desolate river bottom roads near the Missouri River.

One summer I particularily enjoyed doing the 8/21-24/68 run/s of shows. It's funny, I can still remember specific bike rides and routes I took based on a show I was listening to during that ride.

I also loved the coincidences that would pop up, like a song lyric perfectly timing up with something you would pass, like a road sign or a building or just about anything. And when you would time the music to your rides out to end at JUST the right moment as you were pulling in to your home. I used to try to time out certain sections of shows to go along with different routes that I took regularly and knew well, I always kept track of the mileage and time and such with a pimped out odometer/spedometer.

As for 2/28/69, I really can't add anymore to it's praise. I might give 2/27's DStar the edge, but really I love 2/28 equally. The Stars from the next two nights don't do it for me so much.

I was getting a bunch of dental work done a few years ago and was looking for something to play during the couple hours I was there. I chose 2/28, and it took on a whole different meaning when listening while being hooked up to nitrous oxide and pure oxygen for an hour and a half or so. It definitely made the whole procedure feel like it was actually fun, and ended too soon. "Hold on, doctor, just lemme finish this Caution first!"

This post was modified by Jim F on 2010-10-20 07:04:47

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Oct 20, 2010 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Finally Beat 2/28/69 Dark Star

thanks for the story Jim, i wish i could ride at nite (i've done it a few times out of necessity), but city living doesn't generally give me the opportunity

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 19, 2010 9:53pm
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Congratulations! I really admire the folks who actually use the bike for transportation. I sometimes look in wonderment at these folks during the messy months here in Seattle.

Now I don't want to be a poop, but I'm curious. Folks riding bikes with headphones listening to the Dead? I couldn't bring myself in a million years. How do you all do it?